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Mac Webmasters
the List FAQ

By: Dan Knight
and David K. Every


Join Mac Webmasters, the forum for people who manage Mac-related web sites.

The following questions are addressed.

  1. What is the purpose of Mac Webmasters?
  2. Who sponsors Mac Webmasters?
  3. Is Mac Webmasters only for webmasters?
  4. How does an email list work and what is netiquette?
  5. How do you subscribe to Mac Webmasters?
  6. How can I remove my name from Mac Webmasters?
  7. Who is on the list?
  8. How can I get a copy of the e-mail addresses on the list?
  9. What topics may be discussed?
  10. I subscribed, but get no messages. What's up?
  11. What other resources are available to Mac Webmasters?
  12. A few words before subscribing

1. What is the purpose of Mac Webmasters?

Mac Webmasters exists as a forum for people who manage Macintosh-related web sites. This is a place to discuss banner exchanges, ad rates, and how to collect from difficult sponsors. Mac Webmasters is about the business of managing and promoting Mac web sites.
 
If you are not involved in running a Macintosh-related site, please don't subscribe to this list.

2. Who sponsors Mac Webmasters?

Low End Mac (lowend@mactimes.com) sponsors Mac Webmasters, which was started in February 1998. The list is managed on a Macintosh IIsi running Macjordomo.

3. Is Mac Webmasters only for webmasters?

This list is for webmasters and others involved in creating and maintaining Mac-related web sites. There are currently a couple hundred subscribers.

4. How does an email list work and what is netiquette?

Mac Webmasters is a closed list: only subscribers may post. You subscribe using the administrative mailing address (lists@reformed.net) with command subscribe Webmasters YourName (your name is optional). Subscribers will receive a copy of every message sent to the posting address (webmasters@reformed.net). If you wish to respond, post, or otherwise have your message sent to everyone on the list, send email, either by replying the message to which you are responding or sending a new one, to webmasters@reformed.net.
 
The list management program is set up so selecting "Reply" in your emailer will send a message to the entire list. If you wish to respond individually to the sender of the message, be sure to address your message accordingly. There should be no need to copy messages to both the author and the list.
 
There are informal rules of the internet which are termed "netiquette" to help people use proper etiquette within this form of communication. Some examples of poor netiquette are not to signing messages, unsubscribing by sending mail to the posting address instead of the administrative address, or TYPING IN ALL CAPS (which is considered yelling). This is a dynamic environment and netiquette is changing rapidly.
 
Some informal rules for this list
 
  1. Remember that replies automatically go to the entire list. To respond to an individual, see the directions for your email software.
  2. Never send attachments to the list.
  3. Please quote only the relevant portion of messages you respond to -- and please quote some of the original message so others know what you're responding to.
  4. Please keep "me too" and "agreed" messages off the list; these are best sent privately.
  5. When responding to a digest post, please change the subject to match that of the original message.
  6. Signature lines (sigs)
    1. Please keep sigs concise, preferably 6 lines or less
    2. Macjordomo is set to wrap lines at 80 characters, so check that your sig won't wrap badly because of this. (Just look at your posts to see if this is a problem.)
  7. Please do not post news releases, although brief announcements are fine.
  8. Treat your list neighbor as you wish to be treated. Address breaches of netiquette privately, not on the list. Assume the best, not the worst.

5. How do you subscribe to Mac Webmasters?

Send e-mail to lists@reformed.net
 
The subject line is ignored, but the text of the message should read:
 
subscribe Webmasters YourName
 
To switch from individual messages to the daily digest, send e-mail to lists@reformed.net. Your message should read:
 
set Webmasters digest
 
If you have any problems switching modes, please email me at <postmaster@reformed.net>.

6. How can I remove my name from Mac Webmasters?

Send e-mail to lists@reformed.net with the following text in the body of the message:
 
unsubscribe Webmasters
 
If you have any problems unsubscribing, please email me at <postmaster@reformed.net>.

7. Who is on the list?

Because the list software requires an e-mail address but not a name, I may not have names of all subscribers on the list.
 
There are currently 230 subscribers.

8. How can I get a copy of the e-mail addresses on the list?

You can't. To communicate with the list, send messages to the posting address.

9. What topics may be discussed?

Anything relating to managing a Mac-related web site. Mac Webmasters is an unmoderated closed list. Unmoderated means messages are sent to the list without prior knowledge of the listmom. Closed means only subscribers may post messages.

10. I subscribed, but get no messages. What's up?

It is possible to successfully subscribe with an incorrect email address. If you subscribe successfully, you will receive a reply from the list management software. If no such message arrives, your subscription had a problem (usually a type on the email address).
 
I check all bounced messages to determine why they bounced. If the address is invalid, I delete it from the subscriber list. If the problem is temporary, like a full mailbox, I'll keep the address on the list.
 
Some bounces are caused by overzealous ISPs attempting to filter spam. In those cases, I will try to contact both the subscriber and the postmaster to point out the problem. It is a good idea for you to contact your ISP in such a case, letting them know this is legitimate email, not spam, and asking them to please let it through.
 
Of course, since there's a problem with the email address, there may be no way I can contact you to tell you of the problem. :-(

11. What other resources are available to Mac Webmasters?

This whole section offers resources, and links to other resources. Hopefully that will help you get started.

12. A few words before subscribing.

  • Be sure the return address on your browser or email program is correct. All it takes is one tiny little typo and we can't get messages to you. If you do not receive a confirmation email, your subscription did not take.
  • Several email providers have implemented anti-spam filters, some of which filter out messages from this list. I will contact your email provider after the first bounce, requesting they let future messages through. I will also cc: the message to you.
  • The mail server is set to stop sending a message after trying for 24 hours, so if your email provider is down for more than 24 hours, you may miss some postings.
If you don't manage a Mac-related web site, you may subscribe to the list, but remember that the focus is the Mac-related site.

Dan Knight, listmom
dknight@reformed.net


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Created: 07/30/98
Updated: 11/09/02


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